One of my favorite things about L.A. is driving around listening to podcasts. My top three are Alec Baldwin’s (it’s surprisingly good!), This American Life and Marc Maron’s WTF. Almost always, Maron’s guests are performers (don’t miss his epic interview with Louis C.K.) but this week he talks to a chef, Scott Conant of Scarpetta. Though Conant comes across as gruff and ultra macho at first, he reveals a softer side that took me by surprise–especially the bit about going to therapy and how he takes it personally when someone sends back a veal chop. Give it a listen.